Curse

Hyper Cutter · Oct 30, 2006, 10:10 PM // 22:10

Inscriptions only applying to NF weapons is stupid enough, but restricting insignias to NF armor was pointless and essentially killed the point of the damn things (i.e. dislocating stats and skin for armor)...

Sid Soggybottom · Oct 30, 2006, 10:19 PM // 22:19

I also think that eventually the inscription system will apply to all items instead of restricted to NF items. This was just a transition so that those rich hoarders with "uber" Tyrian/Canthan weapons don't go into a giant hissy fit blow out.

prism2525 · Oct 30, 2006, 10:31 PM // 22:31

I have an idea. Why doesn't anet make it that when you CTRL+click your weaps they show purple/gold/green names? That way you could notice from a natural 15^50 rare from a build up blue one.

Sable Phoenix · Oct 30, 2006, 10:36 PM // 22:36

Inscriptions and insignia really need to be applied to all chapters as a change to the core design of the game's drops. Otherwise they're pretty pointless and don't really change anything.

Malice Black · Oct 31, 2006, 01:36 AM // 01:36

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Originally Posted by Sable Phoenix

Inscriptions and insignia really need to be applied to all chapters as a change to the core design of the game's drops. Otherwise they're pretty pointless and don't really change anything.

No, inscriptions are a selling point of NF, making them available to everyone will reduce the chances of Anet making extra money.

To the OP...you took a gamble and lost, grab a hankie, wipe away the tears and stop whining.

Sidra · Oct 31, 2006, 02:52 AM // 02:52

Why would anybody want inscriptions for all armors? It's a Nightfall feature, as are many things in Factions that don't carry over to Prophecies. If you lost money, that's your fault. Sank yoo for sinkiiiing.

Malice Black · Oct 31, 2006, 02:58 AM // 02:58

It's funny how everyone wants new content to be added to old games, they fail to understand that new content is the selling feature of the new games.

Addone_Abaddon · Oct 31, 2006, 03:00 AM // 03:00

I think this will be like the material storage, started out in one chapter, but eventually went to previous ones.

Akhilleus · Oct 31, 2006, 03:03 AM // 03:03

the OP is angry that he didnt gain from the losses of others, and then expects sympathy.
i'll pass.

scrinner · Oct 31, 2006, 03:07 AM // 03:07

The problem is not with inscriptions/insignias being NF only but as the way they were made. Tyria and Canthan weapons were not designed for the inscription/insignia system. Thus they would have to redesign each weapon produced. For Nightfall the system did the work while processing the weapon so it worked. Its not as much as they didnt do it as they couldnt

Malice Black · Oct 31, 2006, 03:08 AM // 03:08

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Originally Posted by Addone_Abaddon

I think this will be like the material storage, started out in one chapter, but eventually went to previous ones.

Material storage was an issue long before Factions, Anet just used Factions as an launch area. It's my opinion that inscriptions should stay NF only..chapter1 items are dead cheap now, you can buy r8 15^50 items with good mods for the price of 1 15^50 inscription.

Hyper Cutter · Oct 31, 2006, 03:23 AM // 03:23

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Originally Posted by Sidra

Why would anybody want inscriptions for all armors?

Because the point of insignias for armor was to let you have any armor skin with any stat, and the armors that need the system most (Tyrian ones) can't use it...

Thallandor · Oct 31, 2006, 03:43 AM // 03:43

To all and everyone who would go on to say things like:

SEE WE TOLD YOU ANET WASNT GONNA SCREW US OVER U WHINING BITCHES LAWL. <3 ANET.

Remember, disscussions bring about changes and for this moment in time inscriptions only affecting weapons found in Nightfall, most players old and new seems ok with it, but it cannot be confirmed for sure that the application of inscriptions to all weapons wont not have been the case if the masses in the forums have voiced against it in these and similar forums/fansites. So remember that changes for the better arent always due to the zealous faith in Anet but good reasonable/constructive suggestions/critisim from discussions....when we are not busy flaming/PvPing each other over in these forums.

Malice Black · Oct 31, 2006, 03:56 AM // 03:56

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Originally Posted by Hyper Cutter

Because the point of insignias for armor was to let you have any armor skin with any stat, and the armors that need the system most (Tyrian ones) can't use it...

Buy NF armor then. If people don't own NF then they shouldn't get the rewards it brings.

Whiplashr · Oct 31, 2006, 04:06 AM // 04:06

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Originally Posted by Bob Whills

Anyone else think that blindly spouting off moral judgements is hilarious?

Only those who are either direct or indirect recpipients of said attacks, who are deeply in denial and seek to find a way to rationalize and shout down the person making the judgement.

The attacks on me for the things I have said simply prove that the truth hurts, and people will do or say anything to justify and rationalize what they are doing. They can't ever belive they are wrong. No, of course not, it's the person making judgment. Ya, that's the ticket.

strcpy · Oct 31, 2006, 04:07 AM // 04:07

I didn't loose money, I just kept weapons I found that I wanted to mod or get mods from. They just went to the trader. If you try and play the market sometimes you win, sometimes you loose. It may even occur that eventually both side loose (after you get rid of you stuff Anet adds inscriptions into Tyrian and Canthan items). That's speculation/gambling and I can not feel sorry for anyone. Your gonna loose sometimes.

However, I agree that I want them to work on older chapter's stuff. I really like my ele's armor but would rather have different stats. Since the skin isn't available in Nightfall, oh well. Same thing with some weapon skins.

Not a big deal. You could still have them found only in Elona, but I would like to apply them to older characters.

cataphract · Oct 31, 2006, 10:09 AM // 10:09

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Originally Posted by The Admins Bane

Buy NF armor then. If people don't own NF then they shouldn't get the rewards it brings.

Armor inscriptions are un-balancing. Let's take a fictious battle of Minion Masters as an example:

Minion Master One is a Tyrian. He's wearing a SupVigor and SupDeath runes on his AL60 armor.
Minion Master Two is an Elonian. He is also wearing SupVigor and SupDeath runes on his AL 60 armor. Furthermore, he has the inscription that gives +15 armor while controling 5 or more minions.

Both of them have 10 minions, the melee noob ones. What do you think which one has the advantage?

As for weapon inscriptions, those a nice but can be un-balancing too, but not drastically as a +X armor armor inscriptions.
On the topic of losing money - I took a gamble and bought a 20<50 sephis axe from a friend for 10k in hopes of making it 15>50 for my tyrian warrior. I was disappointed but my world didn't crumble because I don't have a 15>50 sephis.

strcpy · Oct 31, 2006, 10:55 AM // 10:55

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Originally Posted by cataphract

Armor inscriptions are un-balancing. Let's take a fictious battle of Minion Masters as an example:

Minion Master One is a Tyrian. He's wearing a SupVigor and SupDeath runes on his AL60 armor.
Minion Master Two is an Elonian. He is also wearing SupVigor and SupDeath runes on his AL 60 armor. Furthermore, he has the inscription that gives +15 armor while controling 5 or more minions.

Both of them have 10 minions, the melee noob ones. What do you think which one has the advantage?

That has absolutely nothing to do with inscriptions - check out Canthan armors (specifically the one that grants armor bonus based on the number of minions you control).

All the inscriptions do is decouple those mods from the skin - which is a good thing. Factions saw a start to this, Nightfall took it a step further. The only "unbalanced" part may be at what prices each mod stabilises at. If the good mods suddenly become 30+k per armor piece then you can blame that on inscriptions. Even with the new stats they would have just done the Canthan way and had it as an armor set.

It's more an issue of new armors being available in later chapters and new content not being backwards compatible. You can complain about that if you want, but I suspect it will fall on mostly deaf ears. Most of us like new content in new games and Anet wants to sell games - go figure.

Sidra · Oct 31, 2006, 11:56 AM // 11:56

ANet wants to sell their new chapters. They need a selling point, and something special. You want them to take it away and give it to everybody. To people who , some garunteed, others not decided, will not be buying Nightfall. GG to your idea.

Malice Black · Oct 31, 2006, 12:07 PM // 12:07

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Originally Posted by strcpy

That has absolutely nothing to do with inscriptions - check out Canthan armors (specifically the one that grants armor bonus based on the number of minions you control).

All the inscriptions do is decouple those mods from the skin - which is a good thing. Factions saw a start to this, Nightfall took it a step further. The only "unbalanced" part may be at what prices each mod stabilises at. If the good mods suddenly become 30+k per armor piece then you can blame that on inscriptions. Even with the new stats they would have just done the Canthan way and had it as an armor set.

It's more an issue of new armors being available in later chapters and new content not being backwards compatible. You can complain about that if you want, but I suspect it will fall on mostly deaf ears. Most of us like new content in new games and Anet wants to sell games - go figure.

Agreed with you there.

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ANet wants to sell their new chapters. They need a selling point, and something special. You want them to take it away and give it to everybody. To people who , some garunteed, others not decided, will not be buying Nightfall. GG to your idea.

And agreed there, there is too many people who think everything should be given to them even though they won't go out and buy the chapters..thats nothing to do with balance thats just people wanting something for nothing.